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	<title>Comments on: What did *you* think of Ignite Portland</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.igniteportland.com/2008/02/what-did-you-think-of-ignite-portland/comment-page-1/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was very good, but overall I think I enjoyed the first Ignite more. Part of it might have been the more intimate space of the first one, among other things. Mainly I feel the presentations at the first one generally had more "substance." I.e., they made me think more, and made more of an impression. (Of course there were exceptions. "Imagination" was a standout for me.) 

Again, it was very enjoyable, and the shortcomings have already been discussed. Thank you very much to the organizers and sponsors for a great evening! 

@Derrek "slides... are rotated and advanced at the whim of the projectionist" 
That's not how it works, it just seems that way sometimes when the speaker goes too fast or too slow to sync with 15 sec/slide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was very good, but overall I think I enjoyed the first Ignite more. Part of it might have been the more intimate space of the first one, among other things. Mainly I feel the presentations at the first one generally had more &#8220;substance.&#8221; I.e., they made me think more, and made more of an impression. (Of course there were exceptions. &#8220;Imagination&#8221; was a standout for me.) </p>
<p>Again, it was very enjoyable, and the shortcomings have already been discussed. Thank you very much to the organizers and sponsors for a great evening! </p>
<p>@Derrek &#8220;slides&#8230; are rotated and advanced at the whim of the projectionist&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s not how it works, it just seems that way sometimes when the speaker goes too fast or too slow to sync with 15 sec/slide.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignite Portland</title>
		<link>http://www.igniteportland.com/2008/02/what-did-you-think-of-ignite-portland/comment-page-1/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignite Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>beerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the show and the all that you did and are doing, I think it came off great!  That said, and all the other positive comments, I'm going to toss out a suggestion.  It would be cool if organizers/announcements were under the same slide constraints as the presenters...that would help to maintain the pace and spirit of the rapid-fire presentations, and help the audience understand what Ignite is before the presentations begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the show and the all that you did and are doing, I think it came off great!  That said, and all the other positive comments, I&#8217;m going to toss out a suggestion.  It would be cool if organizers/announcements were under the same slide constraints as the presenters&#8230;that would help to maintain the pace and spirit of the rapid-fire presentations, and help the audience understand what Ignite is before the presentations begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrek Wayne Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.igniteportland.com/2008/02/what-did-you-think-of-ignite-portland/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrek Wayne Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're like me, when you're out on the town and you see a show thats less than spectacular, part of you is always paying attention to how the show might be improved. And if you're really like me, sometimes you smuggle in a six pack. You know, 'cuz you're a young guy on his way up and you can't afford ten dollar cocktails yet. Now, of course, some shows are just plain doomed from the get go by bad writing or no talent, but when that's not an issue, the secret to improving your show is nailing the oportunites. Here are a few words on that subject as it relates to a show I caught recently at the Bagdad Theatre called Ignite Portland 2.

The "2" denotes that it was the sequel to a smaller show developed and presented in an advertising office. The original premise was this: People give five minute presentations on a subject of their choosing to an audience just like office people do in office meetings. You know, with powerpoint slides, and some guy standing up doing the "I'm not used to people looking directly at me" bit. But, all the uncomfortable pauses are played for laughs because ... here's the twist ... the presenter gets only twenty slides, and they are rotated and advanced at the whim of the projectionist.

Of course, this simple smart ass gag could never sustain a packed house for two hours, and I was relieved when it was dropped right out of the gate. Quite simply, the caliber of the presenters was too high for the gag to work. What did work was the audience really seeing themselves in almost all of the presenters, because everyone in the room was a geek.

Yet there were still some missed opportunities, which I'll point out here. There was no beginning. A show begins with a curtain or a drum roll or a lighting cue or a fart or something. Ignite lurched and halted while every sponsor did their little number in front of their thirty foot logo (which I'm not knocking, the show was free after all) and the projectionist still thought his gag was funny the sixth time. 

But, as the first presenter was announced I was preparing to laugh. It turned out the first guy didn't show, but this being the digital age, they had his slides, so they pushed some other dude on stage with a handful of notes. That's a recipe for laughter folks. They told us what was going to happen before he even opened his mouth: he had to ad lib, and the audience went right along with it.

So ten seconds into the show, I'm thinking, man they should make more of these presenters ad lib in front of someone else's slides ... maybe not everyone, but it could be like the lightning round or something. Speaking of which, here's the rest of my suggestions for Ignite Portland 3: Not all the presentations are going to be great, so get a gong for when the energy sags, or better yet, really commit to the slide rotating idea but chose your moments. Don't tell the audience to boo people off stage. Clearly, Portland geeks are way too polite for booing someone off. Oh, and get me involved, my part can be drinking beer after beer and making sound effects, except on stage this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re like me, when you&#8217;re out on the town and you see a show thats less than spectacular, part of you is always paying attention to how the show might be improved. And if you&#8217;re really like me, sometimes you smuggle in a six pack. You know, &#8216;cuz you&#8217;re a young guy on his way up and you can&#8217;t afford ten dollar cocktails yet. Now, of course, some shows are just plain doomed from the get go by bad writing or no talent, but when that&#8217;s not an issue, the secret to improving your show is nailing the oportunites. Here are a few words on that subject as it relates to a show I caught recently at the Bagdad Theatre called Ignite Portland 2.</p>
<p>The &#8220;2&#8243; denotes that it was the sequel to a smaller show developed and presented in an advertising office. The original premise was this: People give five minute presentations on a subject of their choosing to an audience just like office people do in office meetings. You know, with powerpoint slides, and some guy standing up doing the &#8220;I&#8217;m not used to people looking directly at me&#8221; bit. But, all the uncomfortable pauses are played for laughs because &#8230; here&#8217;s the twist &#8230; the presenter gets only twenty slides, and they are rotated and advanced at the whim of the projectionist.</p>
<p>Of course, this simple smart ass gag could never sustain a packed house for two hours, and I was relieved when it was dropped right out of the gate. Quite simply, the caliber of the presenters was too high for the gag to work. What did work was the audience really seeing themselves in almost all of the presenters, because everyone in the room was a geek.</p>
<p>Yet there were still some missed opportunities, which I&#8217;ll point out here. There was no beginning. A show begins with a curtain or a drum roll or a lighting cue or a fart or something. Ignite lurched and halted while every sponsor did their little number in front of their thirty foot logo (which I&#8217;m not knocking, the show was free after all) and the projectionist still thought his gag was funny the sixth time. </p>
<p>But, as the first presenter was announced I was preparing to laugh. It turned out the first guy didn&#8217;t show, but this being the digital age, they had his slides, so they pushed some other dude on stage with a handful of notes. That&#8217;s a recipe for laughter folks. They told us what was going to happen before he even opened his mouth: he had to ad lib, and the audience went right along with it.</p>
<p>So ten seconds into the show, I&#8217;m thinking, man they should make more of these presenters ad lib in front of someone else&#8217;s slides &#8230; maybe not everyone, but it could be like the lightning round or something. Speaking of which, here&#8217;s the rest of my suggestions for Ignite Portland 3: Not all the presentations are going to be great, so get a gong for when the energy sags, or better yet, really commit to the slide rotating idea but chose your moments. Don&#8217;t tell the audience to boo people off stage. Clearly, Portland geeks are way too polite for booing someone off. Oh, and get me involved, my part can be drinking beer after beer and making sound effects, except on stage this time.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only presentation that I actively disliked with the biofuels guy. I thought there weren't supposed to be sales pitches? His whole argument was basically: keep wasting  energy driving but if you give your money to me rather than Shell you can feel good about it. "Help me rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic cause it feels good... No, don't look over there at the rising water..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only presentation that I actively disliked with the biofuels guy. I thought there weren&#8217;t supposed to be sales pitches? His whole argument was basically: keep wasting  energy driving but if you give your money to me rather than Shell you can feel good about it. &#8220;Help me rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic cause it feels good&#8230; No, don&#8217;t look over there at the rising water&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I hate it hen I miss something that gets such great reports. Maybe next time I'll get to fulfill my RSVP and my kids' school won't "plan" a rush parent meeting at the last minute.

Ignite 3? I'll be there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I hate it hen I miss something that gets such great reports. Maybe next time I&#8217;ll get to fulfill my RSVP and my kids&#8217; school won&#8217;t &#8220;plan&#8221; a rush parent meeting at the last minute.</p>
<p>Ignite 3? I&#8217;ll be there!</p>
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		<title>By: thisKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>thisKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a fabulous time and I thank the organizers for all their time and effort. I wasn't at all disappointed by the "rough around the edges" feel of the presentations; perhaps it's just what I expected. And I'm not sure I think we need any more "context" around the presenations to avoid...missle strikes? Imprisonment? I'm a little lost, I guess.

I was grateful that someone on Twitter mentioned the doors opened at 5:15 because I would have missed that otherwise and likely not gained entrance if I'd arrived at 6 like I'd originally planned. Perhaps a little more talk about that in the days leading up to the event would be helpful to some. Then again, you may get people camping out at 8 AM, and the venue may not appreciate that. ;)

I was able to do a little networking, mainly meeting Twitter friends in person. But some games/challenges are often fun for the naturally introverted art/tech community.

Overall, great event. Can't wait for the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a fabulous time and I thank the organizers for all their time and effort. I wasn&#8217;t at all disappointed by the &#8220;rough around the edges&#8221; feel of the presentations; perhaps it&#8217;s just what I expected. And I&#8217;m not sure I think we need any more &#8220;context&#8221; around the presenations to avoid&#8230;missle strikes? Imprisonment? I&#8217;m a little lost, I guess.</p>
<p>I was grateful that someone on Twitter mentioned the doors opened at 5:15 because I would have missed that otherwise and likely not gained entrance if I&#8217;d arrived at 6 like I&#8217;d originally planned. Perhaps a little more talk about that in the days leading up to the event would be helpful to some. Then again, you may get people camping out at 8 AM, and the venue may not appreciate that. <img src='http://www.igniteportland.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I was able to do a little networking, mainly meeting Twitter friends in person. But some games/challenges are often fun for the naturally introverted art/tech community.</p>
<p>Overall, great event. Can&#8217;t wait for the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jabancroft Hey man, I know it's hard not to take this stuff personally (I've organized 3 major national conferences and a number of smaller events - I know), but dude, the kind of feedback given by @Alain is too valuable to blow away.  Savor these comments and realize there may be dozens of people who agree with him - then weigh the feedback against other feedback received and adjust accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jabancroft Hey man, I know it&#8217;s hard not to take this stuff personally (I&#8217;ve organized 3 major national conferences and a number of smaller events - I know), but dude, the kind of feedback given by @Alain is too valuable to blow away.  Savor these comments and realize there may be dozens of people who agree with him - then weigh the feedback against other feedback received and adjust accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get your nose bent out of shape, of course it was my intention to rile, you guys got to toughen up a little. If it's a complete Love Fest there is no growth. Read what I said. I never suggested anyone should go to jail for a presentation on Open Source Rocketry, simply that context is a jumping off point for the kind of free association that you are trying to promote. If you think about it for a second, you can appreciate the irony. Palestinians fire a homemade rocket from Gaza and Israel responds with an attack that usually results in more than a few innocents being killed. College students fire a rocket and they get do a performance at Ignite, and get a round of applause for it. A coed from the local college pimps guidance systems, high performance fuels, freely available on the internet surely you have to appreciate the incongruousness of it all. The whole point of Ignite was to provoke thought, particularly in directions that you had not been considered. Thats what is supposed to be about. Listen I love the concept, I love what you are doing, 'I understand its volunteers - after all I went and will go again, and yes I will work on a proposal for Ignite 3. The numbers you got show there is a genuine need for such a forum and i want you to succeed beyond your wildest expectations. Nothing but love. Alain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get your nose bent out of shape, of course it was my intention to rile, you guys got to toughen up a little. If it&#8217;s a complete Love Fest there is no growth. Read what I said. I never suggested anyone should go to jail for a presentation on Open Source Rocketry, simply that context is a jumping off point for the kind of free association that you are trying to promote. If you think about it for a second, you can appreciate the irony. Palestinians fire a homemade rocket from Gaza and Israel responds with an attack that usually results in more than a few innocents being killed. College students fire a rocket and they get do a performance at Ignite, and get a round of applause for it. A coed from the local college pimps guidance systems, high performance fuels, freely available on the internet surely you have to appreciate the incongruousness of it all. The whole point of Ignite was to provoke thought, particularly in directions that you had not been considered. Thats what is supposed to be about. Listen I love the concept, I love what you are doing, &#8216;I understand its volunteers - after all I went and will go again, and yes I will work on a proposal for Ignite 3. The numbers you got show there is a genuine need for such a forum and i want you to succeed beyond your wildest expectations. Nothing but love. Alain</p>
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		<title>By: @verso</title>
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		<dc:creator>@verso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a member of the Badge Trifecta (Speaker/Staff/Sponsor) I am thrilled to pieces about Mark Gross' comment. I agree it would have been nice to see the slides, that was one advantage to W+K was the ability to see the slides change. Even that would have helped! All the rehearsal in the world (and believe it or not I did rehearse) didn't help me stand in front of 700+ people and know how long 15 seconds was. I like the idea of the lavalier mic too, I'm a hand waver and attaching one of them to the mic feels like I can only talk half as effectively. (:

I thought it was a fantastic evening-as a volunteer it was a great crowd, as an attendee for the rest of the night I saw some fabulous talks, and @kveton quoted me in his presentation. I met some net.friends for the first time in person, I made new friends, and I got to tell a lot of people some stuff they didn't know. Bring on The Third!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a member of the Badge Trifecta (Speaker/Staff/Sponsor) I am thrilled to pieces about Mark Gross&#8217; comment. I agree it would have been nice to see the slides, that was one advantage to W+K was the ability to see the slides change. Even that would have helped! All the rehearsal in the world (and believe it or not I did rehearse) didn&#8217;t help me stand in front of 700+ people and know how long 15 seconds was. I like the idea of the lavalier mic too, I&#8217;m a hand waver and attaching one of them to the mic feels like I can only talk half as effectively. (:</p>
<p>I thought it was a fantastic evening-as a volunteer it was a great crowd, as an attendee for the rest of the night I saw some fabulous talks, and @kveton quoted me in his presentation. I met some net.friends for the first time in person, I made new friends, and I got to tell a lot of people some stuff they didn&#8217;t know. Bring on The Third!</p>
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